How I Respond to an “Upsell”

March 22, 2010

I received an excellent question today from a Monologues reader:

“Cash and Dash is one thing, how about when a girl says,”oops hours up(after only 30min.) If you want fun it will be another hour 200. then 300. for fun.”

What the hell! What do you do, Lose 200. for nothing or pay 700. for something. From your story I just read you seem to get way better deals,175.-250.

Wondering what you would do?”

My response (slightly edited):
This type of “upsell,” though I don’t think the word “upsell” is truly appropriate to describe the scenario, only happened to me once in an outcall, and it was just a few months ago. The girl was only at my crib a few minutes, wouldn’t get undressed, and asked for more money, insisting all I would get for the $200 was a PG show.

I let her walk out with the $200 rather than pay more money.  There was a driver waiting in a white Dodge Charger downstairs.  If she didn’t have a driver, let alone one driving that kind of car, I would have probably kicked the living shit out of her until I got my money back.  Something to consider is that even if I had paid the additional money, there’s no guarantee she would have delivered as promised.  I believe a guiding principle has to be that if they break your trust once, there’s no reason to believe they’ll keep their word going forward on the same issue.

Ripped Me Off

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Also, this scenario is one of the reasons to try to use girls without drivers.  If the girls are all alone, they are far less likely to pull this kind of shit since we are generally bigger and stronger.  Unfortunately, what drives them to drivers (no pun intended), is when a guy stiffs or underpays them, which is far too common.

While I met this girl on backpage, she apparently had a reputation for sometimes doing this with a service she has worked for in the past, as well, which I learned through a friend of mine who I have mentioned in some posts who sometimes works with the same service.  We exacted some revenge (which was revenge for my friend, as well, since this type of conduct hurts the reputation of the service) on the girl that ripped me off by sending her on a wild goose chase into the hood one night at about 3 AM – we even had her walking around the back of some old guy’s house who was asleep, telling her to use the back door, that I had eaten bad Mexican and was on the bowl and that we’d come to the door in a couple of minutes, that type of thing.  She called back about six times threatening us, and was furious – perhaps particularly so since we said it was going to be a couples session and agreed to pay $500.  Its good if we as payahs can do things like that to try to keep the bad ones honest, or out of the game entirely.

One other thing I now do, after a bad experience last year on an incall, is confirm that the price is for a full hour.  On an unrelated incall last year, the girl I was fucking was cool, but the pimp started banging on the door early since the girl had another client waiting, and his co-pimp/madam, a chick named Brianna (real alias) who I had positive experiences with when I had done her couple of times myself before, subsequently told me the posted rates were only for half-hours, which wasn’t disclosed in the ad.  Both were apologetic and told me they would make it up to me next time, but I’m not planning on there being a next time, and I’m not at all confident they were planning on either changing their ads or providing full-hours for the quoted rates.

Brianna

The reasonable rates I get may have to do with location.  Tampa has had a sterling reputation for sluts dating back to at least World War II, and a relatively modest cost-of-living.  I also tend to like the younger ones, and they tend to be the cheapest even if though they are hot since $175-200 is a lot of money to them at 19 or 20 – especially if they still live with their parent(s), don’t yet have kids, don’t use a driver, and don’t work through a service.

I should add that, to be fair to Brianna, that she has done me twice for a whole hour at my place for $140 each  – in fact the first time, she was probably here closer to two hours.

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